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Alignment help, tracking to the right.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Andyshine77, Feb 26, 2024.

  1. Feb 28, 2024 at 9:26 AM
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    Andyshine77

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    Yeah I have more experience than guys around here know. AMF delete on a friend's Chevy. Collapsed lifter as usual. After that they're very reliable trucks. My 97 went 270k without anything other than the normal fuel pump replacements. I also had a 1988 Ranger that wouldn't die, I drove it until 2014.:kona:



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  2. Feb 28, 2024 at 9:32 AM
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    Incorrect! My truck was also inspected and undercoated buy Toyota a year before I found what you see in the picture. They all rotted out in the same spot. The frames were defective and were recalled. My dealership had 20 frames stacked up that were in even worse shape. Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  3. Feb 28, 2024 at 9:38 AM
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  4. Feb 28, 2024 at 10:09 AM
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    Cool……but your postings doesn’t exude experience or confidence.
     
  5. Feb 28, 2024 at 10:50 AM
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    That's because it's a post in a forum. You can't judge anything from that.

    It's all good.
     
  6. Feb 28, 2024 at 11:48 AM
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    it is spelled toe. I am a tech. Toe is measured in minutes and degrees. There are 60 minutes in a degree. Any alignment rack shows this. Anyone who has done an alignment knows this. That is what the ‘ symbol is.
    10 minutes of toe creates a slight scrub that self centers the steering wheel.

    Factory specs often advise some minutes. Track racers avoid this and adjust to 0 minutes for a front end that is happier to turn in.

    I do not ask for the measurement. I do the measurement. My truck is fine. I have the printout.

    nice try.
     
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  7. Feb 28, 2024 at 12:07 PM
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    Haaa, sure you do your own alignments! If you actually did alignments you would never set your tow to zero. No one, and I mean no one ever uses minutes. They are fractional degrees. To convert degrees to minutes is absolutely pointless. Unless of course you are 'that guy' and it sounds like you are.
     
  8. Feb 28, 2024 at 4:12 PM
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    yeah. I did alignments. Including my own. My toe is at 0. It drives well.

    Hunter converts measurement with a button click.

    Well done.
     
  9. Feb 28, 2024 at 4:42 PM
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    OP-- Did you try to rotate the front tires yet to rule out a bad tire?
     
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  10. Feb 28, 2024 at 6:07 PM
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    Not yet, I'll give it a go, why not.
     
  11. Feb 29, 2024 at 7:01 AM
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    Of course you did alignments, just like everyone else on the interweb. Keep running your zero tow, and I'll be on the lookout for the "why are my tires wearing on the edges?"
     
  12. Feb 29, 2024 at 12:54 PM
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    I don’t have edge wear

    I wish this picture was somebody else aligning it. It is not fun.

    maybe you can do it for me next time show everyone how it’s done. Let me know when you start so we can split the referral bonus.
     
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  13. Feb 29, 2024 at 1:44 PM
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    This explains it for me! My Taco had a pull to the right off the lot, dealer aligned and its been perfect straight since. However, I came from an awd Highlander, and I noticed on highway driving the Taco needed a little extra attention every now and then. I didnt think it was the wind as the Highlander is also a big box. I always meant to have the dealer recheck, but when I test myself it drives perfectly straight with no pulls, even tire wear 20k miles later, and at speed I can jitter the steering wheel with no change in track/direction. Must just be still getting used to going from AWD to RWD, I used to go 15k per year in the Highlander, now barely 5k in the Taco, and as you say it has a low caster. If its fine I would rather not have the dealer tinker with it.
     
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  14. Feb 29, 2024 at 2:22 PM
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    lol I’m an alignment tech, mind yourself
     
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    Listen buster, you don't need to call out all of us alignment techs on the internet aha
     
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    Neat, and ya those lifters are garbage. I think chev's drive the nicest for sure but, I will stop short of calling them reliable... atleast after maybe 2010-2015 they are not.
    Gotta be on the lookout for leaks, pistons, valve springs, valve stem seals, oil pumps, vacuum pumps, injectors and any electrical connector(s)/wires, wire junctions or fuse blocks that are within a 5 square mile radius of moisture of any sort because everything electrical likes to transform itself corrosion green like a caterpillar transforms into a butterfly. Sometimes it's interior wiring and sometimes exterior. Whichever ones are hardest to access for a repair usually
     
  17. Mar 1, 2024 at 7:37 AM
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    I see this as a neglect issue, it’s not a manufacturing issue. If you live in a location that salts the road, you know better. This is nothing new, it’s been going on for decades!

    Seems as if you are ragging on Toyota quite a bit. Sell your Tacoma and go back to Chevy. Good luck, the neighbor is spending $12k not getting an engine replaced due to that garbage lifter design.
     
  18. Mar 1, 2024 at 11:34 AM
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    Not a real GM guy. But truth be told I'm not like most people, I try and buy what I feel is best and I could care less who makes it. Most people are what I call branded, much like political affiliations.

    No sir it was a defect. The frames were made with the wrong amount af carbon and chromium. They literally rusted from the inside out even when undercoated. This is why there was a massive recall and why Toyota replaced the frames. Do some research on the topic and educate yourself. The issue has been discussed here to ad nauseam. I have owned five trucks two ford's one Chevy and two Toyota's all were reliable, but the only one that rusted out with order 60,000 miles on it was the 2010 Tacoma. My 88 Rangers frame was perfect for 30 years.

    I gave Toyota Two tries, not including the 07 Camery that I inherited. It has the wonderful 2AZ-FE. AKA the worst engine Toyota ever made. The piston rings would eat the bores away at about 90,000 miles and you had to add oil every 1,000. The piston rings were low retention and the oil drain back holes in the Pistons were too small and will clog up causing the rings to stick in the ringland. Even with changing the oil every 3,000 miles the Rings will eventually eat through the coating on the cylinder bores and you're done, loss of compression.

    Doubt I'll buy a Chevy, but I can do the AMF delete myself and I could also throw in a Texas Speed Cam and some heads and get 600hp at the crank on pump fuel.

    So yeah. Maybe a Ranger Raptor. Screenshot_20240215_143454_Google.jpg
     
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  19. May 2, 2024 at 10:32 AM
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    20240502_132117.jpg So I finly took my truck into a specialty alignment shop. They do all kinds of modifications for trucks and race cars.

    So, to the alignment gurus, what do you think?
     
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  20. May 2, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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    Looks good. John Bean (Snap On) machine. Hopefully it drives as good as the readings look
     
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